EP 558 – Developing A Major League Mindset To Get What You Want With Shirley Baldwin Owens

NCS 558 | Major League Mindset

NCS 558 | Major League Mindset

 

Success comes when you are in true alignment with your goals, your passions, and your surrounding elements. Scott Carson shares his love for baseball with life coach and former Major League Baseball Scout, Shirley Baldwin Owens. Today, Shirley who is also a bestselling author, relationship expert, and the host of her own podcast Get What You Want With Shirley, talks about what it takes to develop a major league mindset and how to get what you want out of every relationship that you have. She shares some tips for success including how to commit and have patience while reaching for the stars.

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Developing A Major League Mindset To Get What You Want With Shirley Baldwin Owens

We’ve got another awesome interview lined up for you. From talking with so many people for the last quarter and in 2020, people struggle with trying to figure out what their message, what their motivation is and their direction. It all comes down to knowing exactly what you want out of life and out of your business. I’m honored to have a friend of mine that I met at the New Media Summit. My friend Steve Olsher puts on this amazing event. This lady was coming out with a book, is the best bestseller, getting booked up and now she’s got her podcast. She’s kicking butt and taking names. I was honored to be a guest on her show. One of the things that hit it off for us is we’re huge baseball fans. I’m going to be honest. I’m a little bit of peanut butter and jelly from some of her experiences and what she’s done in the past. I’ll let her say more about it. Our guest is the awesome Shirley Baldwin Owens. Shirley is a bestselling author, relationship expert and the host for her own podcast, Get What You Want With Shirley.

Her clients have included Major League baseball players, celebrities, children, women in transition and couples. She loves empowering individuals to look inside themselves as to who they are being in a relationship. Her book, Get What You Want From Your ManShirley speaks directly to women. She has a passion for inspiring women to embrace their feminine. You use that energy to create anything they want in the relationships from a place of love and without manipulation. On her Get What You Want With Shirley Podcast, she talks to individuals who’ve gotten what they wanted and tell how they did it. She’s been featured on many radio shows, podcasts, news shows, and other major media outlets. She is currently working on her second and third books and she Get What You Want series. Without further ado, the lady, the awesome, I would say the Get What You Want icon out there, Ms. Shirley Owens. What’s going on, Shirley? How are you doing?

I’m good.

How’s it going? Is everything rocking all right for you?

It’s beautiful. It’s raining in Arizona and I love it.

That’s a rarity for the most part. You call Phoenix home, is that correct?

Yes. Gilbert, South of Phoenix.

Talk a little about your fifteen years of background in working with professionals. How’d you get started in that? How’d you get to where you’re at now?

I had a crazy life growing up. I won’t start all the way back but we moved a lot. I’m moving into my last and final house hopefully, which will be number 60. I had to make friends quickly. Through many mistakes, I learned how to build relationships and how important they are. Going back several years to baseball, I hosted an independent baseball player. My kids had brought this newspaper home from school and there was a player on the front that said, “We’ll play for housing house.” I was like, “What is this?” I love baseball. I was super excited to have the Golden Baseball League come to Mesa, which is north of us. I decided to go meet a kid and he moved in with us for four months. As a result of that, we had front row seats at every game and I went to 60 games that summer. I got to know all of the nine teams that were there at that point. The coaches were all former independent league players and some of them were Hall of Famers. It was a good opportunity to learn a lot more about the game that I was already in love with.

Towards the end of the season, one of the players on the team, not the one that was living with me, I kept thinking he was the best closer and he has five solid pitches. Why is no one looking at him? I saw a scout at a game and he was this crotchety old man. I saw him down there and he was like you would see in the movies, not willing to talk to me. I was a girl, I tapped him on his shoulder. He was a scout for the Padres and I was like, “How do I get this guy seen by you?” He said, “Your and my conversation is over.” That was the third inning, by the seventh inning, we are best friends. I got the coach to switch rotation. This guy stayed an extra day. I loved him. I invited him to the Padres try-outs.

While we were at the try-outs, they had 181 players at that signing camp or something that. He slipped a piece of paper through the fence and he said, “I want you to pick six players out of these,” however many that were there. I stayed most of the day. On my way out, I had written my six players down and handed them through the fence. He called me that night and he said, “How did you do this? You picked four of the six that we signed.” It was some weird presence that I see. They also signed my player and he was Minor League of that year. He played for the Padres for six years.

What’s his name? Can you mention it?

His name is Manny Ayala. His dad died and he had some rough times that he now owns a barbershop in California. He’s super successful and I love watching him pass this. He’s married and has a couple of little girls. It’s beautiful. It was my way in. They still call me 007. It was at a group of friends and they’re still lifelong friends. They were watching players and letting them know if somebody had what it took. They always call it moxie. That’s the quick story on how I got into baseball and then it took off from there.

NCS 558 | Major League Mindset

Major League Mindset: Find the path that resonates with who you are and follow it.

 

I think baseball is such a mental game a lot of times. I think you would agree to that too. Everybody has great skills. Hitting a baseball is one of the hardest things to do and being great at your location with baseball. We start getting into the Minor Leagues and things that. Everybody is a good player. It comes down to not being a head case half the time or knowing how to deal with those ups and downs because everybody goes through it. I’ve got some friends who played in the Major Leagues. They say that’s one of the things that separates a lot of those that are good versus those that are great is the mind game. Would you agree to that?

I would agree. Life is a mental game and everything is with professional athletes. I have a daughter that’s a D1 Scholarship pro-athlete. She’s a gymnast. I had a son that played college basketball. I knew that mind anyway. They’re superhuman to me. Working with the best of the best, it’s hard because something will happen on the field and they’re trying to do everything they can to fix this on-field performance when honestly 100% of the time, there’s something going on and off the field. I would step in and help them work through what was going on off the field so that they could focus on what’s going on in the field.

More times than not in anything that people are good at, they come from the struggle because we don’t learn in our comfort zone. They also are good at one thing. When the other things enter their life like family, friends, kids, drugs or whatever it is, they don’t know how to handle it because they focus their whole life on one thing. That goes with everyone but baseball I know. We would have struggles and there would be a kid that’s throwing 104 miles an hour, but I go talk to him and see if he’s even someone that we would want to work with. If they’re not okay when they get in the big leagues and they have all that pressure, they’re not going to be okay there.

It’s a lot of the same thing on the entrepreneurial side. We all have to grow into that headspace that we want to get into. We always say, “If you want to make $1 million, you’ll make $100,000 first.” Its the Minor Leagues of Entrepreneurship growing up, the single double and triple way. There’s a lot of similarities there. There are so many employers and entrepreneurs trying to separate personal life from their business life. We know that’s impossible.

It’s so impossible.

Are there any specific questions you’d love to sit down with? What are your keys to success when you’re sitting down and talking with somebody? Is there a process or questions that you’re asking to see what they’re dealing with or anything?

I ask them how they think that they occur to other people. Who are you to yourself? What do you think you are? What kind of person do you think you are? How do you occur to other people? How do other people see you? That’s a huge thing because a lot of times, there’s a discrepancy and if there’s a discrepancy, then that means there’s something going on with their alignment with themselves. A lot of people see themselves as honest, but then there’ll be like, “I don’t think people see me that.” There’s got to be something that they’re being that would have others see them a certain way if that makes sense.

It does make sense where they think of one way, but then they think everybody else sees them as different. It’s not necessarily a chip on the shoulder, but it’s out of focus. When you can be exactly as other people see it, it makes it a lot easier versus this inner conflict of people doing stuff. It’s the same thing, “I’m going to a job and I don’t want to do what I’m doing and maybe what I’m doing. That’s why I’m not going to have success in it.”

I used to get nervous about speaking, being on camera and that’s becoming less and less. Sometimes I’m even nervous by default because that’s how I’ve always been. Once I get on, I’m a little bit easy about it. What I learned is if I am always myself 100% of the time and I talk about what I know, then there’s not anything that I have to cover up or worry about, I’m getting to have conversations with people. It’s everything. If we are living in the same all the time and we’re coming from a place of alignment and integrity with ourselves, then when we show up in the world, it’s the same way to everyone. Everybody sees us the same. If they don’t and you’re in that place, then it’s their stuff and not yours.

That’s great counsel there. The thing is showing up and being yourself. So many people try to be something else or trying to find out who they are. I tell people all the time. I’m like, “Don’t be me. You’re not going to be Scott Carson. You’re not going to be Shirley. Go be Steph, Dan or Sebastian. There’s a reason who you are, share who you are and get that message out. Don’t try to fake it because then it’ll come across and be double-sided.”

It’s so crazy because I’ve always thought I’m weird, I’m different, but then people want to be me but I’ll be like, “You want to be me? Let me go see how so-and-so does it so that I can let you know how to be like me.” Even the life coach word, I was never a life coach. That’s what people call me, but I was never that. I was a person who had been through a bunch of stuff and figured out how to get through it and was helping other people get through that same stuff. It’s like, “Your title is a life coach. You have to act as a life coach. You have to ask certain questions or you have to be this certain way. There are schools on life coaching but so-and-so does it this way, so you go to her school.” I love looking at the world differently. That is every single one of us is here for a purpose.

We’re all our own selves. We’re all trying to figure out and that’s why one diet doesn’t work or one plan doesn’t work. Entrepreneurialism is so hard because we’re not following in the path of someone else. We’re in this jungle, cutting down trees and making our own path and then walking it and then being worried and not knowing when you’re going to get done, but instead of following someone else’s path. There are good things to following other’s paths like yours and mine, but you find what resonates with you and then that’s where you go. A lot of what I do has come from someone else’s forged path, whether good or bad or I’ve learned and I put it in my toolkit. I love it. I think we’re all trying to be something that we can’t be because we’re us.

As you’re talking there, I’m thinking about my favorite quote out there from Ralph Waldo Emerson. You enjoy that quote as well too, based on everything you’ve said. You almost quoted it directly. “You want to go where there’s a path. If you go where there’s no path, then leave a trail.” It’s one of the things especially the last ten plus years in doing what I do since we were in a very niche-y aspect of it. It didn’t exist over ten years ago. That’s one of the things, I’m like, “You got to go out. We’ve made our mistakes plenty along the way. You learn more from mistakes.” When you sit down and work in Q&A coaching. I’m going to say mind coach versus the life coach a little bit here. People that you’re sitting down in entrepreneurship, women or men too because I know you work with both, where do you see the two biggest gaps when they’re not getting what they want or they’re struggling or they’re frustrated with what’s going on in life? The alignment is the important thing, but is there something else that you see a lot of the time?

We think of integrity as what the world has told us is integral instead of what is integral for ourselves. That’s one of the things people maybe don’t even understand it and commitment. Commitment is a huge thing and that’s doing whatever it takes to get what you want or to get to that place. Oftentimes, we commit haphazardly to people and not think about what we can commit to ourselves. I’ve talked about this a lot. I don’t even know why. I went on a keto diet because I wanted all the benefits that I heard that came from that. I made a commitment to myself. I started my keto diet and then I started reading about it after I started it. I realized there was no food in my house that I could eat. I remember it was 4:00 in the afternoon and I don’t remember why I couldn’t get to the store. My husband and others were like, “Why would you do that? Why don’t you start tomorrow?”

I had committed to myself and I didn’t want to go back on that commitment. I ended up doing that for a year and a half eating that way. I didn’t ever cheat because I had committed to myself. I often hear people say, “I need a diet or I need to do this and that, but I can’t because I’m home alone a lot and I’ll cheat.” There are all these excuses and it’s so easy when you commit to something. I’m not saying that I haven’t had things that I have done that with because I have, but that’s why I learned that. Commitment gives us the power to continue to add things to our plate that we can commit to. From that place of that diet, I had all this power. I was like. “I have power over food and now I’m going to write a book and then go learn how to be a podcaster. I’m going to start writing articles and become an expert. I’m a relationship expert.” I thought a lot of that came from a place where I was low and down but I committed to one thing. I oftentimes think what’s missing is the commitment to ourselves.

NCS 558 | Major League Mindset

Major League Mindset: Commitment gives us the power to continue to add things to our plate that we can commit to.

 

That’s such valuable insight there because a lot of people struggle with patience and waiting for stuff to work out. We’re in such an instant gratification diet or world, get it straight on my phone or get delivered directly to me. Before too long, we’re going to have Spooner. It’s a new app. I’m going to have like a ride-along with the Uber guy and then they’re going to feed you. It’s being committed. It means being in for the long haul. You’re going to trip up, but not killing yourself or getting down yourself because you’re not having the success that you want. Many people struggle with it. We see that in relationships and with people on that journey. I’ve seen it with a lot of interns I’ve had. People were like, “I want to make $70,000 a year.” I’m like, “You have no work experience.” You wouldn’t agree because you have no work experience or we deal that with investors. “I want to close on 50 deals in the first year.” I’m like, “You need to close on one first.”

Here’s the thing. Commitment doesn’t necessarily mean that the results are going to be there. We have to commit regardless of the results. I did not lose very much weight on that diet that I was on for a year and a half. I had committed and I felt better. I don’t know that I felt better because of the food I was eating or I felt better because I was committed to myself. Commitment doesn’t mean that the results are going to be there. Oftentimes, we pair those two together.

We expect one thing. If I keep doing this, it’s going to show up. Everybody has a different timeline for success and things like that. It’s also not about being committed. It’s not about action thing. It’s a mindset thing. A lot of people are weak-minded because they want to lose weight or they want to go to the gym and we let excuses dive into what we want to accomplish, then it’s not a priority for us.

My daughter, who’s a gymnast, she’s taught me a lot. She always says that there are no excuses. She would wake up with 104 temperature and she’s still like, “I have to go to school, mom. I have to go to the gym, etc.” I would tell her, “You have 104 fever. You can’t.” “That’s not an excuse. I can go there.” Oftentimes, she would go to the gym and lay on the floor with high temperature but she wanted to get her 97% there. That got her to being 14th in the nation at one time and that got her this scholarship. She wasn’t natural. This came hard for her. I see that in a lot of athletes and even baseball players. It’s a commitment. What I’m doing and you’re doing right now is a commitment. I’m excited about the things that you have coming up to teach other podcasters too. It’s important that we learn all these little things along the way. We all have something to offer and something that might resonate with someone.

I have been pushing that off for a little while. I look at my calendar and I have a big calendar. I’m like, “We’re going to do an Online Podcasting Seminar and we’re going to do it November. No, October. We’ll do in October.” I wasn’t committed to it. It got pushed back to December, not committed to it. I was finally over the holidays. It’s like, “I got to put this off. I want to do this. I want to add to it.” I started the website in an afternoon during the holidays watching. I said, “I’m committed now to this.” Every day I’ve spent time being committed to that along with other things that we’re working on. People talk about the podcast and how did we get to 500 plus episodes. I’m like, “It’s because I’m committed every day when I come in. I’m committed to my craft.” It’s like your daughter, she wanted to be there 97% of the time are more. You’re committed to showing up for those players. You’re committed to talking with them and to working with people. You have to not go 50% and meet you halfway. You’ve got to go the full way with anything that you’re looking for and doing. I make the analogy, you can’t learn how to swim by just dipping your toe in the pool and you’ve got to dive in.

There’s always something that comes up. My son is 5’9” and he played college basketball, but he was out there every day in rain throwing his thousand hoops a day. I launched my podcast the same day that I had a full hip replacement. Many people were like, “Why are you doing this? Is it some publicity thing?” I’m like, “No. I committed to launching my podcast on that day and I committed to surgery on that day. I kept thinking of all the different ways around it.” My husband on my phone next to my bed, typing in all of my thank you so much heart. He’s like, “You wanted me to put a heart after every single person.” It didn’t matter. I don’t remember that day, but I do know that I committed to doing it. It was like, “We do whatever it takes.” There will always be something that comes up that gets in your way unless you set your mind on it and do what it takes to achieve it. That’s one of the biggest things that we can learn. I know that we got in a huge segue and that’s what we’ve been talking about, but that’s commitment is so important.

I’m a big fan of a local Arizona author out there who’s well known across the country, who is a co-author of Rich Dad Poor Dad. Sharon Lechter calls Arizona home. She was given a book by the Napoleon Hill Foundation Think and Grow Rich but it’s Outwitting the Devil, which I was re-reading. It talks a lot about that focus, those that are the most successful. We get so much stuff thrown at us, different opportunities, events, excuses, hardships, and hurdles that we have to happen. It’s hard to stay focused. She was here in the last few months with things. We’ve had some deals that have gone south that we’ve worked through and keep plugging at it.

Being committed to the process and knowing that there’s light at the end of the tunnel of our goal where we want to get. It might end up being a little bit longer than we expected but we’re committed to making things work and coming out a better person and entrepreneur on the backend side. A lot of people in the face of adversity, they fold. They give up. I can’t do that. That’s sad. You see that with relationships too. People are not mirroring images. We don’t date or we’re not with the person that’s exactly like us because then it would be conflict.

I’ve been in many relationships, I have failed many times. The thing that I’ve learned is that there needs to be workability. It doesn’t matter. If you think about Elon Musk, Michael Jordan, Steve Jobs, name anyone who is insanely successful in life and then go look at their backstory. There’s a lot. You cannot grow from a place of comfort. The other thing that people say to me all the time is this whole grass is greener thing. I’m like, “Yes, but what makes grass green?” In Arizona, what makes our grass green is manure. We have to have a lot of manure on our grass to make it green, especially in the winter. You have to put in time and energy. What’s important is to know that we were always looking that as soon as this gets done, I’ll be good.

As soon as we get past this, I got to get past this week or this day or this month. We look at it as there’s this light at the end of the tunnel but what even is that? It’s a break before the next tunnel. There’s always something. When we can come from a place of realizing that we can take each day or each month at a time, there’s always going to be something. How quick can we get through that something? Who do we choose to be in life that can work through that with us? You and I have a relationship. Everything in our life is a relationship, even with our cars, your animal or with your cat. We have relationships with every single thing. When you can learn to navigate relationships, you learn to navigate life.

That’s great stuff there. I like the first part too. Are you saying that we all have to deal with shit? I think that the grass is green. When I was talking to somebody and he was like, “Life is so hard.” I’m like in the words of Full Metal Jacket, “Life is a big crap sandwich and sometimes we all got to take a bite of it.”

Life is what you want it to be. If you want it to be hard, just say it’s hard every day. We can find evidence in every single thing. I had two hip surgeries. I was on crutches for seven months. My daughter got married, two of my kids went through something hard in their life. There were so many things going on. I launched a podcast. I got to go to Scotland and Ireland. We have all these positive mixed with the negative things. We can find evidence in whatever we want to find evidence is in. When you say, “Life is hard,” and you live in that place of life is hard, then guess what? Life is going to be hard. I feel I have the most blessed life of all time, but I hear all the time, “How do you do it?” It’s like, “What do you mean? How am I living happy and enjoying my life every single day? It’s easy. It’s a choice.” All of the things that come at us like adversity, I take it, bring it and eat it for breakfast, lunch, and dinner, and then enjoy life. You can find evidence in whatever you’re searching for. That’s how it is in relationships too. If you want to find bad in your spouse or in your significant other, you’re going to find it. If you want to find good, you’re going to find it. What do you choose to focus on?

NCS 558 | Major League Mindset

Major League Mindset: If you don’t learn a thing by watching someone else, the universe is going to hand you something and you’re going to learn it anyway.

 

That’s a good start because everybody has good and bad. Those that focus on the bad, you can tell that they have a rough time with life and everything else. Those are the toxic people that take the energy out of the room. They take the air with you. If you find yourself honing to that, what are some things that you would recommend for those that aren’t a Debbie Downer but they have a little bit of that mindset sometimes?

I would say to look at your life and your mindset. The other thing is biological, endorphins are released in hard times and in positive times. Some people will tend to get addicted to that drama, to the negativity, and to that victim mentality. When you’re addicted to that, you’re wanting that release all the time just like people that are high on life and constantly looking for adventures and finding excitement. I would say to take a look at your life, if it’s not what you want it to be, go inside. What are you looking for? How are you creating? Where are you creating? If you’re not creating, you’re creating. You don’t have to do it exactly like me, but if you don’t wake up in the morning and set an intention of it’s going to be an amazing day regardless, that day is going to come.

The sun’s going to rise. The hours are going to pass. The sun’s going to set. The night’s going to come. It’s going to happen anyway. What do you choose to do with it? If you do nothing, life happens to you. You can happen to life or life can happen to you. I would say if you are not getting what you want and you’re not happy with where you are, take a look inside because you have all the power. I believe that. I can speak from a place of I have had so many negative hardships and things happen. They’re happening anyway. We can enjoy it or we cannot enjoy it. We can be happy or sad in that place. That’s important to look at yourself. Who are you being that would have the world around you be the way it is?

That’s true because we have bad things happen in us the office and I’m like, “You have 30 seconds to bitch about it and let’s move on. Let’s find that silver lining.”

I’m not saying to shove it down either because that creates a whole another thing. Get it up, bring it up, go through it and feel the pain. When my son was ten, he came home and he was bleeding all down his leg. I was like, “You got to come in and let me clean that up. Are you okay?” He’s like, “Mom, it’s just pain. Pain is another feeling.” I’ve had to feed that back to him over the years. It’s just another feeling. How are we going to deal with it? What are we going to learn, learn fast? I’m like, “Just learn it.” I tell people all the time, “You’re going to learn the hard way or the easy way, whatever you choose.” If you don’t learn it by looking at someone else or watching someone else, the universe is going to hand you something and you’re going to learn it anyway. How many times do you have to go through something to learn it?

It’s always easier to learn it from somebody who’s been down that path or take that well versus trying to do it yourself. The school of hard knocks is expensive tuition. Going around Ireland on crutches, was that enjoyable?

I went through Scotland and England on crutches for ten days and in Europe, you have to walk everywhere. That was is my first time. I had no clue. I did the stairs. I did every single rickety street miles and miles a day and I loved every minute of it. It was fun. It was easy to get through the airport. I forgot my crutches in Ireland. I know that sounds completely dumb but there’s magic there. That’s the other thing, I’m always like, “I’m going to be one with the earth or be one with whatever’s happening. I’m going to live through the pain.” I’ll tell you, I was struggling to get through Costco here but I went to Ireland and I hiked stairs in haunted castles. I hiked through woods to get to them and there were times where I don’t know if I can go anymore, but if I don’t, then I’m stuck in the middle of the woods next to haunted castles. I got to do it. I pushed through it and I learned so much there pushing through the pain. It was one of the best things I’ve ever done all my life.

The thing is sometimes we experience pain or the fear would keep people from doing anything. A lot of times the fear turns out to be false evidence appearing real and they always say fear runs for it. Oftentimes, we die a million times in our mind or give up in our mind but when we get down to taking action, it’s a whole lot easier than we think it is to be up there. A lot of relationships struggle to go into that next level or taking it because they won’t talk to me or they won’t deal with me. They won’t sell to me or they won’t fund my ideal. You’ve got to reach out, ask and take the action.

You’ve heard the fear of the pain of the past, fear of the future. Everyone’s heard that. I would go one step further that if you do not deal with what’s present, it gets filed in the future, not the past. We think about it’s the past. It’s not the past until you deal with it. When you deal with it, you can file it in the past, but if you don’t deal with it, it gets filed to the future and it comes up again and again. I love living in the present, but I also love going into the past and pulling things up and sweeping out your corners, cleaning up any situation. A lot of times in relationships, there’s years of infidelity or unintegral behavior. It’s interesting because I do everything in visuals or pictures in my mind. I imagine a room and I think of a pile of clothes in the room and that’s overwhelming. If you take one piece of clothing and in the end, you have a cleanroom.

You sweep out the corners, you vacuum, you bleach it, and two get to go in and decorate any way you want. If I had to learn this, life would be different. It’s working through that. Demi Moore and Ashton Kutcher. She talked about bricks on her shoulders. I thought about this whole thing and every time we have something, we pile this brick on our shoulder and then we’re always one brick away from everything crashing down on us. We can work through each thing at a time or take one brick off at a time by cleaning up all of that integral stuff. When a big heavy brick comes, we’re like, “This is life because it’s the only one on my shoulders and so we can work through it.” That was something that was hard for me to learn over the years because I had a lot of stuff from childhood and a lot of things that I was carrying. To be able to let it all go and then do one thing at a time, it’s procrastinating our problems. When we work through each one, then our future is so clear and bright and then anything that comes up that seems hard, it isn’t that hard anymore.

That’s such a great analogy of cleaning out your room. One thing at a time, one relationship, just to reaching out. I’m sorry it went wrong or I’m sorry it went this way. Life is so much better when you can look at a person in the eye. You’ve been through trials attributed because everybody knows everybody’s not perfect. I don’t want to say confessing to it, but vocalizing it, “I’m sorry, you’re sorry, let’s move on.” It goes a long way to healing, sleeping better at night and not having to carry all this extra baggage with you or bricks with you as you’re walking down the road.

I believe that we can create whatever we want in our life. I know that I have and I’ve seen others around me do that. I’ve seen others who’ve been through even way harder things that I’ve been through to be able to clean up their life and create something going forward that’s beautiful.

Tell us about the book, Get What You Want and then you’ve got two more coming out. Tell us about the first one.

It is Get What You Want from Your Man and I did not want that title. It describes who I’m not more than who I am, but I hired a book coach, Angela Lauria. She’s awesome. She wanted me to have this title and I was like, “It was so painful for me to have this title.” What I realized is I meet women where they’re at. We’re all like, “What can I get? I need more. I want more.” I’ll tell you what, this is the book on how to get more, but it’s not what you think. I meet people where they’re at and I take the women in this book on a journey on how they can get what they want from a place of love and kindness and not manipulation and head games. That title has got me a ton of sales. I’ve realized that it’s been a good hook grabber for people. When people take the journey, they’re not like, “I got what I want. Thank you because this helped me to get what I want and everything and not just from my man.” I remember my husband first saying like, “I feel this is the playbook on me.”

I’m okay with it because he loves who I am. It’s more fun to hear him talk about it than me. I’m in the process of writing a few in my next two books but my publisher wanted me to write two. One of them is on business and we haven’t quite come up with whether it’s Get What You Want from Your job, career, employer, employee, we don’t know yet. It’s about creating relationships in business and getting what you want. The other is Get What You Want from Your Kids. I have some online programs coming up about getting to be able to speak to your teenagers. We all want to have good relationships. I love teenagers. Most people think that I’m crazy but I loved them and I’m close to my kids. It’s important to be able to create that relationship. In our home are the most important relationships we can create, which going back to the beginning and baseball, it creates everything better in the world with our jobs, sports, hobbies, or with anything that we do when what’s going on off the field is taken care of then on-field performance is better.

Did you find that providing a place for somebody to crash is a lot better than splitting an apartment, sleeping on air mattresses? We’ve heard stories like that where there’s splitting an apartment and barely getting by, oftentimes, when they’re not at the park working on or anything like that.

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For sure, like having a family around them. Independent baseball has its own little niche, but they definitely have host families and depending on the league, it’s different. Sometimes I will set them up in hotels and they do better when they’re living with families and feeling love. Everybody feels better with love.

That’s what I say. As an entrepreneur, it’s often a lonely journey of going and honing your craft and getting better. If you can surround yourself with like-minded people or even people that are different from you a little bit, get that outside the box view on your life. Being hit by the trees, you have somebody to look at the forest out there.

You and I talked about that on my show. I expanded on my next show after that, but networking is huge. That’s what we are doing right now. We met at a networking event and we are networking with each other and surrounding yourself by like-minded people or people that level us up. It’s so important.

Do you work with people in Arizona or people all across the country?

I even have in other places in the world. I work with anybody now that we have Zoom. It used to be that I’d have to fly places or keep it remotely. Now it’s everywhere and I work with a lot of people in a lot of different aspects.

What’s the best way for them to get ahold of if our readers and Note Nation and across our radio networks want to reach out to you, to work with you, or talk with you a bit more about their situations and see if it’s a fit?

They’re welcome to send me a message on my email, which is Shirley@GetWhatYouWantGuru.com. My website is www.GetWhatYouWantGuru.com. I’m on Facebook at Shirley Baldwin Owens and on Instagram @SFBaldwin1. I have messages coming from all different places. I’m so happy to answer or talk to anybody out and free consult all the time too.

GetWhatYouWantGuru.com is the easiest one there for everybody out there. I highly recommend you go check out her podcast. Well worth it. You’ll get so many great nuggets from it. Get What You Want with Shirley, it’s on anywhere that there’s a podcast playing and then go out and check the book. Buy it. It’s not just a playbook for Shirley’s husband. That helps you out there and dive into it. It’s a valuable tool. I know one thing is a lot of people want to focus on is taking things to the next level, doing things bigger and you can’t do it alone. You’ve got to grow yourself and network. The most growth I had experienced is when I’ve leveraged great relationships and made it win-win. If you’re struggling with relationships, I don’t care if it’s with vendors, investors, people, friends or family, reach out and talk to Shirley to see. She’ll help you get what you want. Shirley, thank you so much for coming on the show and sharing so many great stories and nuggets. You keep rocking it. You’re kicking ass and taking names.

Thank you, Scott. You’re the best. I’m so grateful to be in your network too. You’re wonderful.

We’ve got networks of people all across the country. Did we get to figure out a time to get together and hang out some, don’t we?

We do for sure.

That’s going to be all for this. Check out GetWhatYouWantGuru.com to schedule a consultation to talk to see if it fits. Take advantage of that. She is awesome about what she does. You can tell she’s got a big passion for all but if anything, it’s good 30 minutes of talking about baseball, why not? We’ll see you at the top.

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About Baldwin Owens

NCS 558 | Major League MindsetShirley is a Best Selling Author, Relationship Expert and the host of her own podcast. Over the past 15 years, her clients have included MLB players, celebrities, children, women in transition, and couples. Shirley loves empowering individuals to look inside themselves as to who they are being in their relationships. In her book, Get What You Want from Your Man, Shirley speaks directly to women. She has a passion for inspiring women to embrace their femininity and to use that energy to create anything they want in their relationships, from a place of love and without manipulation. On her Get What You Want with Shirley podcast, Shirley talks to individuals who have gotten what they wanted, and tell how they did it. Shirley has been featured on many radio shows, podcasts, news shows, and other major media outlets. She is currently working on her 2nd and 3rd books in her Get What You Want, series. You can find out more info at http://getwhatyouwantguru.com.


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